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AW SouthronArk
09/09/2004, 16h39
I am a native English speaker. I have been looking for a grammar book so that I can learn some of the Kabyle language. I have only been able to find two or three for sale over the internet, and they are all in French. I intend to learn French in the future, but even if I do I may still have a hard time learning Kabyle from a French language Grammar book. Does anyone know of a Kabyle grammar that has been published in English? Does one even exist? Is there a grammar book of any Amazigh language in English?
Hello
I think it won't be easy to find Kabyle grammar books that are written in English. I don't think there are any. I'm afraid you'll have to start by learning French first.
Good luck!
Slimanovski
11/09/2004, 10h21
Hey,
I came across a Tamazight grammar book in English on Amazon.com once, Check them out.
There are a dozen unpublished graduate theses that you might find online written on the Berber languages in English, mostly linguistic stuff. Google is your best alley in finding any at all.
There’s also an introduction to Tamazight (Libyan Berber) that you can find if you follow this link http://www.libyamazigh.org/ .
I hope this will help if not then you ll have to learn French I guess :P
Take care .
LAVARKELTIA
14/09/2004, 00h43
hi man.
"entrepreneur" IS A FRENCH WORD ! Family of Entreprise Entreprendre and soon.
It is not because YOU ARE AMNESIC THAT FRENCH ARE.
70 % of the words you use are from FRENCH ORIGINE, and our dictionaries are old we sill have a dictionary from XI and XII century .
AND GUILLAUME LE CONQUERANT WAS FRENCH !!!
AND REALLY 30% of your words are YOURS or quite ; welsh saxon Scot ....
BLAIR AND BUSH WHAT GENIUSES .........
Hey,
I came across a Tamazight grammar book in English on Amazon.com once, Check them out.
There are a dozen unpublished graduate theses that you might find online written on the Berber languages in English, mostly linguistic stuff. Google is your best alley in finding any at all.
There’s also an introduction to Tamazight (Libyan Berber) that you can find if you follow this link http://www.libyamazigh.org/ .
I hope this will help if not then you ll have to learn French I guess :P
Take care .
hi man.
"entrepreneur" IS A FRENCH WORD ! Family of Entreprise Entreprendre and soon.
It is not because YOU ARE AMNESIC THAT FRENCH ARE.
70 % of the words you use are from FRENCH ORIGINE, and our dictionaries are old we sill have a dictionary from XI and XII century .
AND GUILLAUME LE CONQUERANT WAS FRENCH !!!
AND REALLY 30% of your words are YOURS or quite ; welsh saxon Scot ....
BLAIR AND BUSH WHAT GENIUSES .........
Then you're 70% FROG idiot ! Did Bush do that to you ? Poor thing ...
My advice is to learn Kabyle from a kabyle speaker directly since I do not lknow of an english grammar book for the kabyle language. I know of an american friend who learned kabyle from the method tizi bwuccen. Look around you for amazigh people that can help you and good luck in your endeavor. I am a kabyle but i live on the east coast.
What is your subject of study? We could help you out a little.
I am a native English speaker. I have been looking for a grammar book so that I can learn some of the Kabyle language. I have only been able to find two or three for sale over the internet, and they are all in French. I intend to learn French in the future, but even if I do I may still have a hard time learning Kabyle from a French language Grammar book. Does anyone know of a Kabyle grammar that has been published in English? Does one even exist? Is there a grammar book of any Amazigh language in English?
Then you're 70% FROG idiot ! Did Bush do that to you ? Poor thing ...
Hi azzar
This is a full time idiot. He probably does know that, in this side of the world, we see French as frogs and no more. I have pity for most Kabyles that live in France...I pray for you everyday, in English of course.
As for learning Kabyle via the English language, there is nothing more easier. Tamazight is the nearest language to English.
There is a book called: Among the Berbers of Algeria by Anthony Wilkin. Written around 1900. This is an excellent book, better than the 1000's of books written by any frog (except Gabriel Camps).
good luck
Hmimi
The French...
a nation of refined and well educated people. Their creed: Freedom, Equality and brotherhood. How can we forget that?
Que dirait Blaise Pascal?
tanejdamt
26/09/2005, 16h24
sorry
that's not the truth, you know.
vous parlez de tamazight comme si vous etiez un connaisseur pfffffffff, "the nearest language to tamazight is english, nothing is easier than learning tamazight in english" a moi de vous dire that I have pity for you, I pray for you but I do it in tamazight darling, let me tell you that:
if you love tamazight as much as you think you do, why is you wife pakistani, can you kids speak tamazight???/ of course they don't.
they speak pakistani because their mum is pakistani and speak english beacuse they live in uk,. how about tamazight???? they don't need it do they??? tampis de toute facon y a pas de livre sur tamazight en anglais.
donc si les francais sont des grenouilles a vos yeux vous les anglais vous n'ete que des pig aux yeux du monde.
qui vous empeche de faire un livre en tamazight??/ mais la question est: en etes vous capable?? vous qui ne pouvez dire une phrase correcte s tmazight.
tanejdamt_lhid (m t3assabt m tecrurin) :jester:
Uk
tanejdamt
26/09/2005, 16h29
Hi azzar
This is a full time idiot. He probably does know that, in this side of the world, we see French as frogs and no more. I have pity for most Kabyles that live in France...I pray for you everyday, in English of course.
As for learning Kabyle via the English language, there is nothing more easier. Tamazight is the nearest language to English.
There is a book called: Among the Berbers of Algeria by Anthony Wilkin. Written around 1900. This is an excellent book, better than the 1000's of books written by any frog (except Gabriel Camps).
good luck
Hmimi
sorry
that's not the truth, you know.
vous parlez de tamazight comme si vous etiez un connaisseur pfffffffff, "the nearest language to tamazight is english, nothing is easier than learning tamazight in english" a moi de vous dire that I have pity for you, I pray for you but I do it in tamazight darling, let me tell you that:
if you love tamazight as much as you think you do, why is your wife Pakistani, can you kids speak tamazight??? Of course they don't.
they speak pakistani because their mum is pakistani and speak english beacuse they live in uk,. how about tamazight???? they don't need it do they??? tampis de toute facon y a pas de livre sur tamazight en anglais.
donc si les francais sont des grenouilles a vos yeux vous les anglais vous n'ete que des pig aux yeux du monde.
qui vous empeche de faire un livre en tamazight??/ mais la question est: en etes vous capable?? vous qui ne pouvez dire une phrase correcte s tmazight.
tanejdamt_lhid (ta3essabt m tecrurin)
Uk
The French...
a nation of refined and well educated people. Their creed: Freedom, Equality and brotherhood. How can we forget that?
Que dirait Blaise Pascal?
freedom ,equality and brotherhood ,hmm ghost ,are serious???.
why do you think french cities are burning ride now ????
hypocrecy knows no boundaries in the french political diccionary !!!!.
Menzakin
11/11/2005, 21h10
Hello !!!!
I am dead serious. It is up to the youngster of the french suburb to get some change for his "being French". After all, he/she is a French citizen. If he is victimized or discriminated against, he has every right in the world to rebel and demand his rights.
is it time for "affirmative action" rights a l americaine? you bet! (not my idea by Farid Zakaria's idea, read the latest time magazine).
Of course, I empathize with the plight of the marginalized... but i do not agree with the method especially in a state of laws like France. We are not talking of a lawless country like algeria.
freedom ,equality and brotherhood ,hmm ghost ,are serious???.
why do you think french cities are burning ride now ????
hypocrecy knows no boundaries in the french political diccionary !!!!.
dear ghost,
let me remind you that american blacks rioted back in the 60s ,they forced the american society and the establishment to take them seriously as citizens of the country with "rights and obligations".
of course i don't approve of the methods used by rioters in france,but i understand their motives ,i see it more as a cry for s.o.s aimed at the french society as a whole .
the problem in europe is that the "white europeans" are in denial ,they don't admit that their societies is as diversified as the american or canadian ones.
europeans claim that their countries are countries of "values" and not of ethnicities ,the reality on the ground is totally different , europeans are "cultural segregationists" and a big chunk of its populace believe in their "racial supremacy".
the french non-european minorities fought for decades against discriminations, it was the french society that didn't want to hear anything about it and slammed the door of dialog shut !
the french finaly found the REAL ROOT of the problem , it is the african POLYGAMIST culture !!!! again the french is blaiming the OTHER , i wonder what mamadou,kolibaly and keita are thinking !!!
freedom , equality,brotherhood.......give me a break!!!
ar tufath
sorry
that's not the truth, you know.
vous parlez de tamazight comme si vous etiez un connaisseur pfffffffff, "the nearest language to tamazight is english, nothing is easier than learning tamazight in english" a moi de vous dire that I have pity for you, I pray for you but I do it in tamazight darling, let me tell you that:
if you love tamazight as much as you think you do, why is you wife pakistani, can you kids speak tamazight???/ of course they don't.
they speak pakistani because their mum is pakistani and speak english beacuse they live in uk,. how about tamazight???? they don't need it do they??? tampis de toute facon y a pas de livre sur tamazight en anglais.
donc si les francais sont des grenouilles a vos yeux vous les anglais vous n'ete que des pig aux yeux du monde.
qui vous empeche de faire un livre en tamazight??/ mais la question est: en etes vous capable?? vous qui ne pouvez dire une phrase correcte s tmazight.
tanejdamt_lhid (m t3assabt m tecrurin) :jester:
Uk
It's better to be a pig at least when we age we become ham to feed the hangy ,the poor and the orphens . What can I say about the frogs...pfff the izzane!. The old saying goes like this <ERRR A DEB ERRr!>
Some praised them for being civilized--------> I say, they invented le bagne the worst highlight you could imagine in the memory of any nation! I may add none of the north african that had gone never come back to their children and families any news lately?????
They enslaved our people for a century
To talk about their courage, they surrendred to their ennemies every battle which earned them the reputation thoughout the whole western world (english speaking in particular) of being prone to give up their arms instead of fighting . You konw what sweety ? the first item in the teaching of french military strategy is to teach the sodiers how to surrender gracefully
The only frig'n time they porved themselves fighters is against a helpless population of Kherata ,setif and Guelma.who by they way were instrumental in their libration from the germans who use to call them "Bougnoul" if you ever wondered where this terminology come from that they are pleased to use to day to call people from your blood line.
So much praise for the frogs : They dragged every looser from europe to claim french citizenship at the expences of the algerians by excelling in sheding amazigh blood in particular. One of them is the father of the actual interior ministry Sarkozy i prefer to say Psychzy.Citizen of France by accident of bith if only the father is blood thirsty bastard of the "legion Etranger . I will let you figure out how much is french in sarkozy who is figuring out who should come and should not come to France for which many north african died long before his father come to enroll in la legion...
Well ,I rather stop here . You like frogs and you call us pigs bah the only thing i love in frogs is the legs ....of their women in particular!
Ethery A A (USA)
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