gh, & d gamma

[amur]

azul
attas wid ittarun sexdammen & negh gamma iwakken ad rren -gh-s tmazight.bghigh kkan ad fkagh rray iw d akken & ur icbih ur isai sser.....
acimi ur nettaru ara -gh-
acu tettinim kenwi?

[lbaz idurar]

Azul à εemur

D tideţ,"γ" ig cbih-ara mara t neţaru "&", maεni daγen "gh","gé et ache",yeţakked ssut niden.
Yiffit at neţaru akken yella di tjerrumt n tmaziγt, s usekkil: "γ"

[I wumi !]

Azul a Lbaz,

Nek nudaγ awalen deg wid iskilen "G" d "H" ţwantaqen iman-nnsen ur ufiγ ara, ihi xas ma nura "gh" deg ideg (place) n "γ" ur yelli γar-s!!!!! At't'as diγen illugan i yellan di tjerrumt n tmaziγt ur nesεi mad'i azal...

[amur]

azul
tidett , ulac aghilif ad n aru gh negh gamma imi bannen d isekkilen.yernu ghas yaajbiyi gh ur zmir gh ad hêtmagh af wid ittarun gammaa akken ad beddlen maca ur ad ifhimegh acimi mazal nesexdam & d wayyen it icban am $,7...atg.nêzra ur nesaara yiwet n tira lamaani lemmer d lebghi ad d nettaru kan s isekkilen.
tanmirt

[I wumi !]

Win iţarun i yiman-is neγ deg wexxam-is, akken yebγa yesxarbubec. Ma digel iţaru akken ad t-γren wiyad ilaq a t-gzun diγen, mawel fiḥel timaṛza uqerruy!

Maca tamsalt-agi n tira, ad aγ-t-awi ar usekfel n twaγit i ḍran d Tmaziγt deg uzeṭṭa n internet imi ur ulac-iţ di UNICODE STANDARD ur nezmir ara a naru akken nebγa am s tmeslayin akw medden, acku tekfa γur neγ turrugza, tḥarci, wannag neččur d imusnawen (ukarkes), d tiddukliwin (n beṭṭu) maca ula d yiwen ur isutar i Microsoft akken a ţ-yegg, akken as ifek azal am tmeslayen nniḍen. D taqemmuct kan i γ-ičuṛen.

Ma d tajerrumt bγan ad tesbesken deg wukud. Nnan-d yiwen ur yezmir ad iwet deg-s, d ayen tgarrez, tswekkar(scellée)!!!!!????????? D aya i γ-iğğan netteḥnunuf, an aḥnunef...

[lbaz idurar]

Provient du message de I wumi !
Azul a Lbaz,

Nek nudaγ awalen deg wid iskilen "G" d "H" ţwantaqen iman-nnsen ur ufiγ ara, ihi xas ma nura "gh" deg ideg (place) n "γ" ur yelli γar-s!!!!! At't'as diγen illugan i yellan di tjerrumt n tmaziγt ur nesεi mad'i azal...

Azul i wumi

Surref-iyi ma ikiderriγ-ara weqvel,d tideţ "gh" s tmaziγ igesε-ara ant'aq nid'en,adeqwlleγ γer wawal-ik"yeţwant'aq,γef yiman-is",nekini ur lliγ-ara d'allangustique,surref-iyi tikelt nid'en f usekcem n w-awal-aki n tefrensist,maεni nekki ţaruγ-t "γ" akkaki i tuffiγ di tjerrumt.

Remarque:
di cfawat n bwasemmi lemdeγ tamaziγt,di tjerrumt ineţaf-ara at'as n isekkilen ara d yessufγen yiwen n umesli(une lettre pour désigner un son,et surtout ne jamais utiliser un groupe de mots)
amedya:
s tmaziγt "c"=ch
s tmaziγt "u"=ou
s tmaziγt γ=gh.......etc

Remarque02:
exception pour les groupes de lettres pour désigner un seul son des groupes "labio vélaire" comme:bw,gw,kw,qw,xw.

Maεni ma isellaγ-ed w amennay,asinniγ azul fellak,asinniγ daγen aγedyini,ma γwelt'eγ.

[I wumi !]

Tideţ, illugan-agi (règles) i d-bedreḍ llan di tjerrumt n tmazight, u d dda Lmulud i ten-igan akken ad isefses taγuri d tira. Maca ass-a taswiεt tbeddel imi ukud ur yeḥbis ara! Ula d tamuγli Imaziγen γef tmeslayt nsen tedda amecwar-is u tedda d wukud aṭraṛ(moderne). Imezwura nneγ gan ayen ssnen d wayen mi zemren seg wul u maci d tuzma i bγiγ a ten-zmaγ, d acu kan ass-a ilaq a nesnarni ayen gan maci kan a t-nemled wa nessusem, niγ a Lbaz!

[winna]

Tira n tutlayt ghef Urdinator, macci haca i imazighen igu3er. Ellan irumanien, amedya, yal wa amek ittaru. Nutni daghen ghur-sen imesli "tsa", ttarun-t "t" am imesli "ta". Win issnen tutlayt yezra ticki d "ta" ticki d "tsa". Maca deg alug n tutlayt nsen, "tsa" yettwaru, "t" s tcerrit s wadda, akken t-ittaru akken Da-Lmulud.
"cha", ttarun-t "s" s tcerrit s wadda, maca deg Urdinator ttarun-t "s". Daghen am "tsa", win issnen tutlayt yezra ticki d "s" ticki d "cha".
Ad smektigh belli tutlayt tarumanit, ur tella-ra d-tutlayt yemmuten. Ghur-sen atas imusnawen, imyura, ifilozofen..atg, ittarun s tutlayt nsen si zik, s isekkilen ilatiniyen, 1800 d asawen. Uqbel, ttarun-tt imrabden nsen (les religieux) deg ldjama s Tkirilit (cyrilique).

Tutlayt, ma nebgha akken ur tessaggwad-ara, ilag-agh ansalwi ilugan. (les rendre flexible)

Winna

[lbaz idurar]

azul winna d iwumi,surreft-iyi ma iwenderriγ-ara awal weqvel d akud iyiğğin-ara.
Adeğğeγ "les linguistes" lakw d imusnawen aţidefrun,imi d nitni ig xedemmen yal-ass f tutlayt
γeleven iyi dacu i zran. maεni awen id fkkeγ tiktiw.

___Nezemmer aţ neţaru s isekkilen n tjerrumt (latin)di ţawil n l'ordinateur f attas n isekkilen"combinaison de touches avec un clavier vertuel" iwakken ad naru isekkilen"ε č ̣ḍ ğ ̣h ̣k γ ̣r ̣s ̣t ţ ̣z ž ...",tira agi nekki nummaγţ,hemleγ aţaruγ s yimru maεni ass mi vγiγ aţaruγ di "l'informatique" uffiγd ugurren.sarameγ adillin wid d tid iqedcen γef ayagi iwakken aţuγal"simplifier"

___Nezemmer daγen aţnaru s isekkilen n tjerrumt n tefrensist d tneglizit"lettres classique",dagi adnaf ugur bwesdukkel n isekkilen,anuγal ur nfareq-ara garassen
AMEDYA:
"d" lakw d "d"
"g" lakw d "ğ"
"t" lakw d "ţ"
"t" lakw d "z"...atg

___Asekkil "v"ma yarennad ar tjerrumt ur cukkeγ ara ad yawi ugur.



Ar tufat

[winna]

Azul a Lbaz idurar,

Nekk, ayen bghigh a-t-id-inigh imi d ewwigh amedya n Trumanit(le roumain), ilugan n tira, ur ghur-sen ara azal ameqran deg kra n Tutlayin.
Deg Tfransist t-tidett, "l'orthographe"-agi, ghur-s azal ameqwran, maca deg tutlayin niden, cwit kan.
Deg Tlalmanit, ar wassa ttnadin ilugan i d izgan i tutlayt nsen. Des useggwas n 2000, sufghen-d ilugan imaynuten, maca, ur llan atas i ten iseqdacen.

Ma nura "atas"(beaucoup) bla taneqit s wadda n "t", amazigh ihsa belli d "uffay", ma ad-izer anamek n wawal.

Tikti-w, ma nsalwi ilugan, imazighen, ur ttaggwaden ara, a-tt-arun. Ma yella, nerra-tt "inaccessible", at-tughal d tutlayt n kra kan n imdanen. Am akken d tutlayt "ésotérique".

Ula d "v"-ni, i d ennid, ur illa-ra d ugur. Awalen ijentaden, daghen, ur llan ara d ugur. Ur ilaq ara kan, a-nsigwet deg-sen.

Ar tufat.

Winna

[lbaz idurar]

Ansuf i sekra bwayen ara ţyawin γer zdat,tefkid-d amedya n "t"uffay tenid-d amaziγ ihsa belli d uffay ma ad izer anamek n wawal,maεni ma d averrani ara yevγun ad yelmed tamaziγt ad as yaεer aken ad yaf anamek n wawal,i-t-i-d-yeqqar ara f imesli igwulmen
tannemirt

[winna]

D ayen illan wayen i d ennid a Lbaz idurar. Deg uselmed n tmazight i "les débutants", yewwi-d aneseqdec ilugan n tira, akken ad igzi unalmad azal n issekkilen. Maca ar zdat, ass-mi amdan issen tutlayt, ilugan n tira u llan ara dayen is3an azal ameqran.
3erdegh kra n ussan akken ad-lemdegh ta3evrit "l'hebreu". Nutni daghen, seqdacen ilugan n tira izedganen deg tazwara kan n uselmed. Ass ma at-tnernid de ulmad, ilugan-ni i tlemded akken deg tazwara, att-talayed ulac-iten.

Nekk daghen ur lligh ara d alinguiste, maca yal yewen izmer ad ifk tikti-s.

Id ameggaz, a Lbaz idurar. Ad ruhegh ad tsegh.

[I wumi !]

Innit-iy ay atmaten!

Ufiγ-d yiwen n wemyag i wimi ur ssinaγ ara tira. Amyag-agi d : asebbeb [asebbev] (s'accoupler). Limer azgar ad yini: Ad sebbaγ [ad sebvaγ] tafunast, amek a t-naru?
Akka: Ad sebbaγ? neγ: ad seb-baγ?
Waqil d agi ar a nemmeγ γer weskil : V, akken ad iban uqerruy-is! Acku ma digel uriγ : Ad sebvaγ, iban webrid-is!

[amur]

azul
amyag agi asebbeb negh asebbev ur tessingh, anida i tufid? anta tama id teseqdacen?
ur singh ara umyag agi maca ma nurat akka ,:asebbeb, b amzwaru ilaq ad ittwantaq b, ma d wis sin 'b' negh 'v' kif kif.
i wakken ad nughal i tira n 'gh' .nekkini ar ghuri ulac aghwilif ma nura gh s gamma negh ayyen niden.awid kan ad nemsefham.zerted kan tutlayin niden am tefransist ghursen 'f' zemren ad tarun s 'f'kan negh 'ph'.....

[I wumi !]

A k in-sqecraγ tamsalt-agi a ay amur. Amyag-agi nesseqdac-it di Micli. Zik di tudar llan yeqd'aren (izgaren, tisita, iεejmiyen) u tikwal (deg mirγan?) sufuγen-d γer wennar izgaren akken ad sebben (ad sebven) ticita, akken a tent-reclen (s'accoupler). Iw akken tafunast ad tarfed tadist (en cloque!) ilaq a ttettwarcel, maca amyag n warcal nessexdam-it i yergazen d tlawin. Ma ninni: AD SEBBEN (AD SEBVEN) amek a t-naru amek a t-nessent'eq!

[amur]

azul
ma d akkagi id ttwantaq amyag agi, fkigh ak lhaq ...nek ur lligh mgal asekkil 'v'.tidet yella di tqbaylit maca nezmer ad naru amedya abrid, aqbayli at yenteq v ma yehwayas(llan ula d leqbayel id yettantaqen b di tama n at wertilan...atg) .yella di tespanyulit v yettwantaq b am di valencia.....
v daghen nezmer ad t neseqdac deg meslayen ijentaden am avilu,l'viza....negh deg ismawen iberaniyen am Victor d tarbaat is.
ayen d ttarugh tura ma yewwid l'hal ad teghregh ayen tzered akw d 'b' ad tesled vvvvaaaaaa imi d agawaw i lligh.....

ad nughal tura ar amyag niden :rcel . amyag agi snaght akken yelha imi lemedniyi kra imdukal akken attas aya tacawit mi nella di tesdawit , anamek innes m ur skadebgh ara :zwedj. ur cukgh ara yesaa anamek n (s accoupler)......
gher icelhiyen yella yiwen wawal : asfard (coît).lamaaani ilaq ad seqsigh yiwen umdakel d acelhi ad it yefru....ad id ini ma nesexdamit i zwayel.

tanmirt

[ameqran_is]

Provient du message de I wumi !
Innit-iy ay atmaten!

Ufiγ-d yiwen n wemyag i wimi ur ssinaγ ara tira. Amyag-agi d : asebbeb [asebbev] (s'accoupler). Limer azgar ad yini: Ad sebbaγ [ad sebvaγ] tafunast, amek a t-naru?
Akka: Ad sebbaγ? neγ: ad seb-baγ?
Waqil d agi ar a nemmeγ γer weskil : V, akken ad iban uqerruy-is! Acku ma digel uriγ : Ad sebvaγ, iban webrid-is!

Ahat azgar agi inek ma izmer ad yini anect agi i tfunast is, u twi yasd at yaru, izmer akka agi:
Ad sebebagh.

[I wumi !]

Xas azgar "inu" ur izmir ara ad yinni i tfunast-is ad seb...maca nek zemraγ ad inniγ fell-asen : [Ad sebven] maca ma uriγ-t : Ad sebbebben (après le "e" il faut doubler les consonnes) aγ d-yefk anamek nnid'en u macci d imal!
Arnu-d ay Ameqran-ik!

[ameqran_is]

Provient du message de I wumi !
Xas azgar "inu" ur izmir ara ad yinni i tfunast-is ad seb...maca nek zemraγ ad inniγ fell-asen : [Ad sebven] maca ma uriγ-t : Ad sebbebben (après le "e" il faut doubler les consonnes) aγ d-yefk anamek nnid'en u macci d imal!
Arnu-d ay Ameqran-ik!

Bubbagh tawurt arnigh ifri !

[lbaz idurar]

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Bubbagh tawurt arnigh ifri !
Arnu axam lakw d lud'a mulac ad čh'en!!!!!

[ameqran_is]

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Arnu axam lakw d lud'a mulac ad čh'en!!!!!

Ulac tucch'a, yal yiwen ad irfed amur is; ur lligh ara d ic n wezgar akken ad ires fell-i umad'al.

[I wumi !]

Azul ay ameqran

temsktad'-iyi-d tagi n yic n wezger!!! D'siγ, acku nniγ-as mi tengagu tmurt nneγ (séïsme) ussan-agi yezrin, d azger i g-sebbeven tafunast u yessengug amad'al!!:D :D

[ameqran_is]

Provient du message de I wumi !
Azul ay ameqran

temsktad'-iyi-d tagi n yic n wezger!!! D'siγ, acku nniγ-as mi tengagu tmurt nneγ (séïsme) ussan-agi yezrin, d azger i g-sebbeven tafunast u yessengug amad'al!!:D :D

Twalad' d acu i yi-d-iktal Llvaz izedghen lah'sin, ay azegwagh?
Macci s yighil negh s tardast ig ttektili: s ugharval !!!

[lbaz idurar]

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Twalad' d acu i yi-d-iktal Llvaz izedghen lah'sin, ay azegwagh?
Macci s yighil negh s tardast ig ttektili: s ugharval !!!


Alla,aγerval sexdamaγt weqvel aktilli.syen d asawen ţektilliγ-kan ayen id yufraren.